Oh my God, the gentle discipline board is the worst. I cannot believe the models that some people espouse there. Like how you're a terrible parent if you teach your kids to not hit people, because you're imposing artificial boundaries on them, and what if they're in a situation someday when they need to defend themselves but can't because OMG you taught them that hitting is wrong? I can't read that board, even though we're definitely in a stage where discipline is an issue and I need ideas.

The TP, though, is great, and there is lots of support in Working Mamas. I think the women who post there are more, hm, experienced in negotiating the collision between idealism and reality.