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rivka ([personal profile] rivka) wrote2006-12-19 03:52 pm
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Lines taken out of context.

"TSOs [Transportation Security Officers] have been trained to not touch the monkey during the screening process."

(From here.)

On a more serious note, I'm impressed by how carefully thought out the TSA's policies for screening people with disabilities are - but given some of the stories I've heard, I question how well those policies are understood and implemented by individual TSOs.

I was at the TSA website trying to figure out what is likely to happen when we try to bring a large, opaque bottle of medicine and a cold pack in our carry-on luggage next Friday. The official liquids policy allows quantities of less than 3oz only, but apparently medication can be carried in unlimited amounts. The medication policy also explicitly permits ice packs and gel packs needed to keep medicine cold. I have printed out a copy of the policy to carry on the plane with us.

(Oh, and you want creepy? Follow any one of those links and look at the TSA logo in the upper left-hand corner. They've put a freaking Christmas wreath around it. Now I want someone to make me a Barrayaran ImpSec Eye-of-Horus with reindeer antlers.)

[identity profile] mjlayman.livejournal.com 2006-12-19 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
None of the TSA folk have ever believed me that I can't stand or walk on the mat underneath the magnetic portal. It has tall spikes that sway from side to side and since my balance is bad to start with, I sway with them. Then the TSA people yell at me for touching the portal, but otherwise I would fall down. So they make me stand longer in a tiny little corral before they have me stand again on one of those damn mats and yell at me for moving again while they wand me.
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[identity profile] therealjae.livejournal.com 2006-12-19 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
"TSOs [Transportation Security Officers] have been trained to not touch the monkey during the screening process."

EEW! Bleagh!

-J

[identity profile] beaq.livejournal.com 2006-12-19 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I get a 404 when I click the Christmas wreath.

[identity profile] toadnae.livejournal.com 2006-12-19 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Having been through their training process, I honestly feel sorry for most TSO's. The big problem is that how they do their jobs changes literally 2-3 times per week. They get a memo on the change and must implement it immediately and perfectly. It is a tough job.

Printing out the policy and taking it with you is an excellent plan. Also, know that you can always calmly and politely ask for a supervisor and they have to let you talk to one. It may be a bit of a wait, but they have to let you talk to one.

[identity profile] cchopps.livejournal.com 2006-12-19 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
You may want to call your particular airport. My experience back in October is that sometimes the lines of communication between TSA and individual airports vary as do they way they handle specific policies. Either that, or get there extra early!
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[personal profile] naomikritzer 2006-12-19 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish you could fly in and out of MSP (the Minneapolis/St. Paul airport). Our TSA officers are calm, polite, efficient, and friendly. What was most striking to me was how much easier it got to pass through security with small children after the TSA took over security there: they send you to a particular chute, where the machine is designed to accomodate carseats and strollers, and they seem to have extra staff assigned there to help you wrangle your kids and make sure the toddlers don't wander off if the parents have to be pulled aside and wanded. They even help me get my kids' shoes back on.

Most of our flights are from here to Boston, and the difference in the TSA staff is extreme. In Boston, they radiate overwork, suspicion, and genuine fear. It is really clear to me, passing through security in the Boston airport, that they feel personally responsible for 9-11, since the two doomed flights that hit the WTC originated at Logan. Never mind that the hijackers all passed through security somewhere else: the staff at Logan are clearly haunted by the idea that in a different world, one of them might have been able to prevent it. AND THEY ARE NEVER GOING TO LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN. EVEN IF IT KILLS YOU. I hate flying out of Logan.

Monkeys

[identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com 2006-12-19 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I will blog this.

But yes, you are right. It is not unusual for there to be a huge difference between the TSA rules as written and what goes on day to day at actual airports.

B

[identity profile] baratron.livejournal.com 2006-12-19 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Additonal items you may bring include:
Liquids including water, juice, or liquid nutrition or gels for passengers with a disability or medical condition;
Life-support and life-sustaining liquids such as bone marrow, blood products, and transplant organs;
Items used to augment the body for medical or cosmetic reasons such as mastectomy products, prosthetic breasts, bras or shells containing gels, saline solution, or other liquids; and,
Gels or frozen liquids needed to cool disability or medically related items used by persons with disabilities or medical conditions.

You are not limited in the amount or volume of these items you may bring in your carry-on baggage. BUT if the medically necessary items exceed 3 ounces or are not contained in a one-quart, zip-top plastic bag, you MUST declare to one of our Security Officers at the checkpoint for further inspection.


Part of me is delighted by the thought of a person turning up with a crate full of organs for transplant and trying to get it through security. Or even a big bag o' blood.
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[personal profile] geekchick 2006-12-19 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Will you settle for a Santa hat? ;)



(Did you know that if you add a note to a photo on Flickr reading "ho ho ho hat" or "ho ho ho beard", it will add a resizable Santa hat or white beard? Hee!)

[identity profile] selki.livejournal.com 2006-12-20 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
LOL on the wreath! So user-friendly!

[identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com 2006-12-20 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
A friend of mine who has to take a keep-cold medication on planes has figured out that it makes most sense to have it in a container full of ice, let them chuck the ice, and then when inside get more ice from someone selling drinks, and maybe again on the plane from the cart if necessary. Ice is easily replenishable if you already have a container that will take it, an ice-pack might be confiscated.

Good luck!