rivka

Yeah. People on that board have died due to their own obstinate devotion to quackery. They have lost babies. The radical change they made in response to the mounting number of dead and seriously disabled babies born to mothers engaging in unassisted homebirth (which is exactly what it sounds like -- homebirth with no midwife or other trained attendant!) was to say that from now on, they would not be hosting discussions where women asked for advice while in labor. (Women were, I kid you not, posting things like, "my water broke almost two weeks ago and I'm STILL not having regular contractions; if I go to a hospital they'll give me interventions, what should I dooooooooooo?" I am not making this up.)