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Mar. 10th, 2010 01:39 pm
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I know I have LJ readers who are much, much more crafty than I will ever be.

Alex wants to have a medieval-y, princess-y birthday party this year, and I thought it would be fun to let the kids decorate a "goblet" to take home. I don't know how completely impractical this idea is, though.

Are there products which could be used to decorate, say, a plastic wine glass, such that the glass could be safely used and washed? I'd be interested in either coloring agents (like markers or paints) or gluing agents. To work as a party idea, it needs to be reasonably safe for little kids to use - so, for example, no superglue.

Date: 2010-03-10 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ratphooey.livejournal.com
What about using Elmer's glue to attach plastic gems and things? They'd be delicate, but washable.

Date: 2010-03-10 06:54 pm (UTC)
jenett: Big and Little Dipper constellations on a blue watercolor background (Default)
From: [personal profile] jenett
http://www.holidaycrafter.com/article1101.html talks about doing Passover goblets with pens that held up well (and she talks about using other materials.)

And http://www.thriftyfun.com/tf36151089.tip.html has some more ideas about paints to use.

One other option - if you've got a paint your own pottery place handy, some of them will let you buy the items, paint them at home, and then bring them back to fire them. Might not be ideal with younger kids who'd like to take stuff home immediately, but I suggest just in case you decide it'd work for something later.

Date: 2010-03-10 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ratphooey.livejournal.com
According to their website, Sharpies are non-toxic:

http://www.sharpie.com/enUS/Product/Sharpie_Fine_Point_Permanent_Marker.html

Or these:

http://www.enasco.com/product/9729055

There are also the type than can write on porcelain and be dishwasher safe, but they run about $50 a set:

http://www.delphiglass.com/index.cfm?page=itemList&stage=2

Date: 2010-03-10 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] klwalton.livejournal.com
so, for example, no superglue.

Well you're no damn fun!

:)

Getting safe stuff to stick on plastic is beyond my knowledge, but I love Alex's idea on the party theme and I'm looking forward to pictures!

Date: 2010-03-10 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bibliotrope.livejournal.com
Perhaps try to keep the markings a certain distance (an inch or so) from the rim so the art would be less likely to come in contact with lips. Masking tape might work for this.

Date: 2010-03-10 07:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] elusis.livejournal.com
I would not use Elmer's as it is water-soluble and doesn't hold non-porous things super well. E-6000 (get the tube with the tip, or else you'll have to squeeze it out on paper and apply with toothpicks or popsicle sticks) would work. Hot glue would too but isn't kid-friendly.

Date: 2010-03-10 08:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ailbhe
Could they design the goblets and have grownups glue the gems on? eg draw little green and red circles where they want emerald and ruby stones? I'm not sure what scale of party you're planning here.

I really wouldn't use PVA glue, though.

Pointy-hat-with-tissue-scarf things might be easier to make and take home? though they might all ARRIVE with them on.

Date: 2010-03-10 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juthwara.livejournal.com
A general sort of craft glue that says it works for fabric (since anything for fabric would need to be able to withstand being washed) would probably work and not be too toxic. Something like this:

http://shop.hobbylobby.com/products/sobo-premium-craft-and-fabric-glue-177014/

My general experience of paint is that unless it explicitly says it's washable, it's usually permanent. Something that says it's acrylic and water-based would be safest.

Or if you decide the idea of supervising multiple small children working with materials that won't come out of clothes is too daunting, you could have them decorate crowns instead. You can get foam crowns pretty cheaply and they make lots of different stickers you could put on them.

Date: 2010-03-10 08:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] geminigirl
You might look at Passover supplies or Jewish resources-at this time of year a lot of the Jewish stuff focuses on Passover and decorating Elijah's cup/a kiddush cup. Something like the Kiddushh Cup Kit perhaps.

Date: 2010-03-10 10:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] carbonel
Just as an alternative suggestion if the goblet thing doesn't work out -- what about decorating (kids' choice) a shield, a wizard's wand or hat, or one of those princessy cone hat things? All of those could be managed with cardboard and construction paper, I think.

Date: 2010-03-11 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telerib.livejournal.com
I got nothin' on decorating glass, but I found this page of SCA youth activities which range from the really neat to the extremely strange.

I'd also, schedule permitting, be tickled to volunteer to bring a harp up for the kids to touch and play.

Date: 2010-03-17 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kightp.livejournal.com
I'm playing LJ catchup, so you may have everything figured out by now, but I can't resist sharing one of the best Internet resources *ever:

http://www.thistothat.com/

It tells you what adhesive(s) will work to glue [this] to [that]. And it's awesome.

This (http://www.ehow.com/how_5652256_use-bake-paint-plastic.html), meanwhile, might be useful with the painting part.

Date: 2010-03-18 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magpie49.livejournal.com
For decorating goblets, might I suggest making a sleeve of that foam plastic sheet stuff that fits snugly over the goblet, but can be removed by sliding it down?

Then the kids can decorate the sleeve with anything you wish to provide, using any glue you wish to use AND THE SLEEVE DOESN'T GET WASHED. It slips off the goblet while the goblet is being washed.

The plastic foam sheet material is pretty non-slip all by itself, but you could paint a line, a ring or an X of rubber cement inside the sleeve for extra grip.

Alternate idea:
The Seneschal's Ledger (or The King's Record Book, or pick another title that you like)
Start with spiral bound notebooks, composition notebooks, or steno pads, choose something of a size and shape and price you like.
Add foam sheets, stick on letters, ribbon, flat backed jewels, pre-punched foam shapes (I just happen to have a mess of itty hearts in 5 sizes and 4 colors for my granddaughter {these come with glue, and a waxy backing to peel off}) and anything else you a princess, prince, seneschal or king might like to use to decorate his book.

It doesn't need to be laundered, and might encourage a youngling to start a journal {very young can journal using drawings}, or be a sketchbook... or a trophy of the "I decorated this myself {with only a little help from the big folks}" kind.

When my kids were little, I didn't have much money to buy things for them, so I made things for them and did things WITH them. And still hear positively about it every once in a while. {youngest kid is 32}

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