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I decided - and we'll see how long this lasts - to read this year's Hugo and Retro-Hugo nominees for Best Novel. The Retro-Hugo, for those of you not following along at home, applies to novels first published in 1953. I've never had much interest in Golden Age SF - I bounced pretty hard off several books that are supposed to be classics, and eventually I gave up. But I'm eligible to vote for the Hugoes this year, and so I figured what the hell, I'll give the Golden Age another try.

So I read Arthur C. Clarke's Childhood's End, and I don't get it.

I mean, I followed the plot, and all, but it doesn't make much sense to me. Setting aside the woo-woo parapsychology stuff, about which I'm willing to suspend my disbelief:

Why the strange passivity of humanity, from the moment the ships appear? I get that creativity is supposed to cease because of the end of conflict, but I don't buy that human conflict and suffering have ended just because humanity no longer makes war or suffers material want. And why would all of humanity suddenly agree that efforts to make scientific progress are pointless, merely because of the arrival of a species that knows much more than we do and refuses to share their knowledge? Why would religious impulses vanish in an instant, simply because of an ability to see into the past - are all world religions (except for a stripped-down version of Buddhism, apparently) supposed to be based solely on an interpretation of historical fact? Why aren't the stars for man? Just because we can't comprehend all of them, all cultures and worlds, at once, why should that prevent us from slow exposure to nearby worlds?

I see with a Google Groups search that someone has provided a passable gloss of the novel as a Christian allegory, and although I'm pretty sure it doesn't meet the strict literary definition of "allegory," I can sort of see how the book works on that level. Okay, I guess, but still...

I know that there are people out there who love this book, who see it as a Great SF Classic Of The Ages. Explain it to me, please. Help me see what you see. Am I just too young for this book? Am I missing the point completely? Or what?

Date: 2004-06-25 12:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] therealjae.livejournal.com
You just described my reaction to most science fiction, actually.

-J

Date: 2004-06-25 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
Heh. I will avoid urging you to "just try this one, it's rilly great!", given how I feel about people who do that to me with Heinlein.
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Date: 2004-06-25 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixel.livejournal.com
"I just happened to re-read Door into Summer again the other day. Eh, *shrug* it's ok but not IMO one of his best.
I tend to foist Moon is a Harsh Mistress if I'm foist Heinlein."
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Date: 2004-06-25 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com
Plus, the Monkees wrote a song, "The Door into Summer", based, loosely, on things that the story made Mike think about.

Date: 2004-06-26 06:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
tend to foist Moon is a Harsh Mistress if I'm foist Heinlein."

Yeah, same with [livejournal.com profile] curiousangel. I didn't like it. Which just means that there's more Heinlein to go around for the rest of you, I suppose.

Date: 2004-06-26 07:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixel.livejournal.com
"Eh, *shrug* I've never been one of those ppl who demanded other folx like the stuff I like. And I am aware that Heinlein's stuff is dated, and many of his concept which at the time were radical and new have been surpassed by society enough that he looks stogy or mysoginistic or whathaveyou now.
My general way of foisting SF onto ppl who haven't read it before is to give them 5 different types of books from my collection ot read, and based on whcih ones they enjoyed go from their with furtyher foistings they are likely to like.
the five books tend to be:
  • one terry pratchett (reaper man often)
  • one of Charles DeLint's 'newford' books of short storys
  • Snow Crash by Neal Stephanson
  • The Warriors Apprentice by LMB
  • either a heinlein or a Spider Robinson depending on what I think they will be more receptive to (f'instnace I kept the heinleins far away from a former SO who was a radical 'smash the state' sort of feminist)

Date: 2004-07-01 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalimac.livejournal.com
Moon is a Harsh Mistress? That thing is unreadable! If you're going to write in Russian, write in actual Russian. Then somebody can translate it, and then I can read it.

Date: 2004-07-01 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixel.livejournal.com
"Eh *shrug* I had no trouble deciphering it. Yes the language juggling was odd, but I've read stranger stuff in other SF novels. In particular the fact he was mixing two real languages made it much simpler even if I didn'tread one of them. That way at least the word choices made sense. I have repeatedly sworn at authors who make up their own 'futuristic' words or alien language bits and insert them into human speech. About 80% of the time the words don't work, don't flow and are often imcomprihensibly constructed that someone would have a hell of a time pronouncing them.
But then, I've actually picked up bits of speech from Mistress. One I commonly use is 'bog' interchangably with 'god', 'gods', 'ghod', etc.""

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