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1. Words cannot express how sleepy I've been in the last few days. Thursday, I fell asleep three times in my office. Quiet room, closed door, *bam!* Asleep. Today I took a nap shortly after breakfast, even though my in-laws are visiting. It was slightly embarrassing.

2. There will not be an exciting moment when my previously-flat stomach suddenly develops a pregnancy bump, because I've had a belly for years. But I noticed today that my belly feels much firmer, especially right in the center. [livejournal.com profile] curiousangel says he can feel it too.

"This sounds so weird, but I think I can feel my uterus," I told my mother on the phone. She was unshocked. "You probably can."

Holy cow.

3. I really, really, really need to stop reading stories that mention fetal death. I blogged about the outraged part of my reaction, but not the part where I sat at my computer and cried.

4. I saw [livejournal.com profile] misia and [livejournal.com profile] perigee when we went out to breakfast with my in-laws. [livejournal.com profile] misia immediately commented on my enormous rack, thus demonstrating that I am not exaggerating the whole zeppelin-tits phenomenon. She also told me she's going to make an afghan for the Li'l Critter and showed me the pattern, yay!

5. We spent quite a bit of time discussing possible baby names with my in-laws today (Rachel/Emily/Genevieve/Alexandra, Alexander/Ryan) without, somehow, either of us happening to mention that we intend to give the Li'l Critter my last name. Maybe it will never, ever come up in conversation, and we won't have to tell them. Do you think?

Date: 2004-09-11 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalmn.livejournal.com
my mother explained to me that in the *real* world, babies have their father's last names.

ahem.

just so you know.

Date: 2004-09-11 08:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] curmudgn

Maybe your mother better not meet a couple I know, where the boy has the father's last name (Eskew) and the two girls have the mother's last name (Langley).

This is not a blended family. All three children have the same two parents. They just don't have the same surnames, because their parents decided to do it that way.

Date: 2004-09-11 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thette.livejournal.com
You wouldn't be allowed to do that in Sweden.

Date: 2004-09-12 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tammylc.livejournal.com
Do they mandate that babies have to be surnamed a certain way, or just that children in the same family must have the same name?

Date: 2004-09-12 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thette.livejournal.com
All children with the same two biological parents must have the same last name. Or rather, each one must have the same as the one before, which is the same thing.

Date: 2004-09-12 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tammylc.livejournal.com
That's what me and my husband decided to do - so obviously I think it's a good idea. In our case, it allowed us to deal with some pretty serious "carrying on the family name" pressure from my husband's family. They are thrilled that we had a boy.

Date: 2004-09-12 07:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
Does this mean that we can guarantee that our baby will live in a mystical fantasy world? Cool!

Date: 2004-09-15 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] micheinnz.livejournal.com
Mine apparently does.

Date: 2004-09-11 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perigee.livejournal.com
Dude, the whole time you and [livejournal.com profile] misia were talking, your mother-in-law was totally giving [livejournal.com profile] misia the stinkeye. As I usually do, I stared at her until she noticed me looking and stopped.

Date: 2004-09-11 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
We ain't crazy about her. (http://www.livejournal.com/users/rivka/160225.html) Fortunately, she is not either one of Michael's real mothers.

Date: 2004-09-11 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porcinea.livejournal.com
I, of course, think Alexander is a wonderful name. And that babies should have their mother's name. Ha. (Alexander Evans, in case it wasn't obvious.)

<crosses off afghan>

Date: 2004-09-11 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalmn.livejournal.com
babies need lots of afghans. that's my theory. and if misia makes one and you make one and i'll make one, then it's good for one in the wash, one in the closet, one on the critter.

Date: 2004-09-11 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
My mother's making one too. *grin*

Hats would be an excellent alternative, especially in slightly-larger sizes. Li'l Critter's due in April, which means that we're likely to mostly get summer clothes as gifts and to be casting about for warmer things when 6 months comes along.

Date: 2004-09-16 07:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ailbhe
April babies are the best! Though there is the clothing issue you mention... May I recommend *gift vouchers* for anyone who isn't handmaking? Babies are the one time I like them, and before I had her, I didn't like them, but now I have 2,346,534 baby blankets and only three fitted cot sheets and I think gift vouchers are great.

Date: 2004-09-11 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
We would use "Alex" as a nickname for either a boy named Alexander or a girl named Alexandra, so there would be easy differentiation from your Xander. (Um, I am remembering right that you're calling him Xander?)

My only concern about Alexandra is that it carries overtones of "we really wanted a boy." My only concern about Genevieve, which is a lovely name, is that its nickname forms are so common. My only concern about Emily is that it's the number one baby name for girls. We might wind up going with Rachel for a girl just because it poses the fewest problems.

Date: 2004-09-11 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerusha.livejournal.com
WRT Genevieve: You don't *have* to go "Jenny" for a nickname form. I knew a girl in college whose nickname was Viva, short for Genevieve. (Not sure where my preference actually lies, entirely sure my preference doesn't matter, just offering the data point, because, well, data good.)

Date: 2004-09-12 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zeldajean.livejournal.com
as did i...

*peers*

Did you go to CWRU? (well, CASE now. whatever.)

Date: 2004-09-12 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerusha.livejournal.com
A&S '96, MED '99

Norton Fall 92, Cutler Spring 93-Spring 95, Clarke Fall 95-Spring 96, then off campus. Sound familiar?

(Sorry, [livejournal.com profile] rivka, we'll stop hijacking your journal now.)

Date: 2004-09-12 05:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
"Alex" will mean I won't confuse him either with [livejournal.com profile] porcinea's son, or my beloved nephew [livejournal.com profile] zorinth: there are a lot of nicknames for Alexander. With either Alexander or Alexandra, the child may come home from school as "Sandy."

Just as a footnote, "Rachel Wald" sounds almost as Jewish as "Rivka Wald," so another generation can have fun confusing people.

Date: 2004-09-19 04:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
Following up to myself: the board of health says Rachel was the eighth most popular name for baby girls in New York last year, so (a) it may not sound as Jewish as I thought, but (b) if you name your child Rachel, there may be three others in her class.

Date: 2004-09-12 06:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
I have an online friend whose RL name is Genevieve, and the first thing I did when I read this was ask if it was pronounced JEN-uh-veeve or jhean-VEE-ehv (after repressing the urge to make an Arthur and Lancelot joke). It is a difficult name to spell and pronounce--for whatever that's worth to you, which may be nothing.

I don't think Alexandra carries those overtones, and it does have the advantage of easily shortening to one syllable for nicknames.

Date: 2004-09-12 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hobbitbabe.livejournal.com
I know someone called Genevieve, pronounced JEN-uh-veeve, and someone called Geneviève, pronounced in the French way with two syllables, sort of like zha[nasal]-VYEV.

Where's a linguist when I need one;-) ?

Date: 2004-09-13 06:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kate_nepveu
I was vaguely going for something like the French way with mine. I hate trying to put vowel sounds down in text. =>

Date: 2004-09-13 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
Where's a linguist when I need one;-) ?

At a music festival in a ghost town, as I understand.

Date: 2004-09-12 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] green-knight.livejournal.com
My only concern about Alexandra is that it carries overtones of "we really wanted a boy."

Nonsense, and I'm speaking with inside knowledge. (My second name, which I don't use.) It's a fine name with a long tradition.

I _do_ think that giving a kid (or otterling, in your case) two names has advantages - more than two can get akward, but two at least gives them a choice.

Date: 2004-09-15 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] micheinnz.livejournal.com
I have a friend whose offline name is Alexandria. A lovely name, I think.

Date: 2004-09-12 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tammylc.livejournal.com
Rachel was one of the two finalists for girl names, had Liam not been a boy. It's a good name.

Date: 2004-09-11 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jinian.livejournal.com
5. Seems unlikely that they'll never, ever notice, but at least you can put it off a while. I believe in choosing names for euphony, none of this preferential treatment for paternal surnames.

Date: 2004-09-11 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mactavish.livejournal.com
I like that, too.

Were we to procreate, I'd probably go ahead and change my last name legally to Mactavish and give it that name, as neither Grimm nor Smith appeals to either of us as a kid's last name.

Date: 2004-09-12 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com
I love your surname, and Michael's is kind of... well, let's just say no child should have to go through school with a name like that. You'll have to tell your parents-in-law before the kid gets a bank account and they send it money. (Zorinth just now got a proper bank account. I feel so grown up.)

I don't think Alexandra says "we wanted a boy" I think it sounds very distinguished. It also sounds terrific as a first name with either Emily or Rachel as a middle name. ARW makes a slightly better monogram, which would also do for Alexander Ryan, if things inside you right now are rolling those hormones that way.

Genevieve is nice, but hard to spell, and the G=J gives the kid a built in disadvantage when it comes to starting to learn letters.

As for avoiding stuff like that, I think you owe it to yourself to go out of your way to avoid them. Also, though this should be easy, don't read British tabloids. I never have, but I've never forgiven Ken's mother for showing me a gruesome Siamese Twins photo she found in The Sun when I was pregnant.

Date: 2004-09-12 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
"...without, somehow, either of us happening to mention that we intend to give the Li'l Critter my last name. Maybe it will never, ever come up in conversation, and we won't have to tell them. Do you think?"

I think it won't come up in conversation for years, not until one of them stumbles on an official form. Why would it?

B

Date: 2004-09-12 07:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hobbitbabe.livejournal.com
Depending on how much she pays attention to the actual kid - could be as soon as he/she is writing or reading, or could be never.

"Grandma, you wrote my name wrong again! MY name is Alexandra Murgatroyd Wald, not Miss Allie whatever-surname!"
"Don't call me Grandma, dear, I'm much too young to be a grandma. Call me Aunt Becky / Nana / Miss Becky. And of course your name is Allie whatever-surname."

Date: 2004-09-12 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
I suppose. And if you assume it will never happen, it will probably happen at the first possible instant.

B

Date: 2004-09-12 09:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
Or if anyone else gets/makes the child a monogrammed anything, and Michael's stepmother notices the initials on it.

Date: 2004-09-13 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
"Don't call me Grandma, dear, I'm much too young to be a grandma. Call me Aunt Becky / Nana / Miss Becky."

Heh. Good call. In fact, she does want to be called Nana. Michael's father wants to be called Poppy. My parents, always the traditionalists, will be Grandma and Grandpa. We still need to find out what Michael's birthmother wants to be called, but it looks like we might have a complete non-overlapping set.

I grew up calling both my grandmothers "Grandma" and both my grandfathers "Grandpa," so all of this with the choices and the extra names seems a little exotic to me. When we needed to distinguish one grandmother from the other, we used last names (e.g., "Grandma Wald").

Date: 2004-09-12 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tammylc.livejournal.com
Since the in-laws know that Rivka and [livejournal.com profile] curiousangel don't share a surname, I expect that they will almost certainly ask what name the baby will have. I think it was the first question Eric's dad asked...

Date: 2004-09-12 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
Heh. I honestly think that it would never occur to them that my feminism would extend that far.

You radical bra-burner you

Date: 2004-09-12 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiredferret.livejournal.com
Probably not, actually. Comfy bras are a great blessing when one is dealing with mammary tissue in excess.

I actually really like the idea of splitting the surnames by apparent gender.

Not that we bothered -- I have a brother, he can worry about the family name.

My parents think that our choices (Carolyn and Jonathan(Jack)) are bit long to go with a three-syllable last name, but other than that, have no quibbles. If it comes to that, Sebastian's pretty long, too, and we get along.

Re: You radical bra-burner you

Date: 2004-09-12 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
Probably not, actually. Comfy bras are a great blessing when one is dealing with mammary tissue in excess.

I slept in a bra last night, and it was unbelievable how much more comfortable I was. I may be bra-wearing for the duration, now.

I like your name choices.

Date: 2004-09-12 06:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] geminigirl
Okay...I have no idea why you're choosing to give the baby your surname and not Michael's, but just like you decided that it wasn't a good name for a psychologist to have, I suspect similar logic can be applied to the choice of surnames for your child.

As someone who grew up with a challenged name (in fact, one of the things that I jokingly grumble about in the process of getting married is the name thing) why add that challenge to a child's life? What benefit does it provide?

Date: 2004-09-16 07:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ailbhe
Both of you plead astonishment. "But - children *always* have their mother's name! Don't they? I thought they did, Rivka, didn't you?" "I certainly thought so, darling, didn't you?" "Yes, I thought so. Wow, Mom, this is weird. *We* both thought..."

Having said that, Linnea has Rob's surname, largely because of my MIL's horror when she realised I wasn't changing my name upon marriage. Givena British surname, we chose the other two names for Irish and Swedishness, and then put them in order of "Easy to spell, pronounce and abbreviate" - so Linnea came first. Then Niamh. A boy would have been Donal Evald. And I'm not attached to my surname.

more name ideas

Date: 2004-09-19 08:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baratron.livejournal.com
You could abbreviate Genevieve as "Neve", like Neve Campbell.

I don't much like Alexandra because I always hear it as the place name or "we wanted a boy". But Alexa is a good name (and I liked it even before having a partner called Alexa!). Probably not Alexis though - at least to me that carries a reminder of the scary uber-bitch in Dynasty!



Re: more name ideas

Date: 2004-09-19 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
Hee! I have a niece named Alexis, who is twelve, and of course in her generation Dynasty has no meaning. I wonder how much she gets that from people her parents' age.

She was full-out in favor of "Alexandra" for a girl, which surprised me - I thought she'd want the baby's name to be more clearly differentiated from hers. Nope. She wants a namesake.

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