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Maryland's primary elections[1] are today, so I voted on my way to work. We've got an open Senate seat this fall - Paul Sarbanes is retiring, and a grand total of twelve different candidates are vying for the Democratic nomination - and so the primary holds more interest than it ordinarily might. (In contrast, my Congressman is running unoposed - not just in the primary, but in the general election.)

I care about the Senate nomination. I care about the Congressional and Gubernatorial races, but those are uncontested primaries. To a lesser extent, I care about the races for state comptroller (because the incumbent is a truly horrible man) and attorney general. I care slightly about the Maryland House of Delegates and the State Senate. And then, of course, there were a number of down-ballot races on the ballot that I knew nothing about at all. Judges, the sheriff, the county clerk, the city attorney, et cetera.

I did a little independent reading about the Senate and attorney general candidates. I went with the local alternative newsweekly's endorsement in the comptroller's race, given that my only real preference, based on general newspaper reading, was "NOT the incumbent." For the State Senate and House of Delegates, I went with Equality Maryland's endorsements. And for the races lower on the ballot, I mostly left the ballot lines blank.

It made me curious: how do you all make decisions about the minor races on the ballot? Do you research everything? Do you follow someone's advice? Do you pick people at random? For the purposes of the following poll, use your own definition of "down-ballot races" - I'm not going to try to stipulate where the cut-off lies between major and minor races. And, as always, feel free to elaborate in comments.


[Poll #819245]

[1] For non-U.S. readers, primary elections are how the members of U.S. political parties decide which candidates will represent their party in the general election. Different states have different systems, but typically, when a person registers to vote they are given the option of affiliating with a political party, and if they do so they are then eligible to vote in the primary election for that party.

Date: 2006-09-12 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fairoriana.livejournal.com
The lower ballot stuff usually leaves me feeling pretty guilty and vowing I'll do more research next time...

Date: 2006-09-12 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ailsaek.livejournal.com
Me too. But when it comes right down to it, I don't tend to care who gets elected to some of our town offices. I feel like I ought to, but I generally just vote for whomever has the (D) next to their name, or the person whose name sounds least Yuppie.

Date: 2006-09-12 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lietya.livejournal.com
I admit, every time it comes up I vote against the woman running for town council who lives on our street and is always dumping great piles of rusting crap on her lawn for months. ;) I don't claim it's a *good* reason, but man, am I sick of looking at that.

Date: 2006-09-12 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erbie.livejournal.com
Same here. Though in my state, we have ballot initiatives that tend to get a lot of airplay. I usually see who supports and opposes them, talk to my mom and my aunt, who share my political views on most things, and read the stuff that comes in the sample ballot. They usually print supporting and opposing arguments and rebuttals to each, and it's pretty obvious from who writes those most of the time which way I want to go.

I tend not to vote in the judicial races and some other local ones, though I do generally vote in the city council and state office races. I'm lucky enough to live in state and federal districts that have incumbants who share my views, so I generally vote for them. City council around here is pretty touchy, so I do follow that closely and vote for city council members.

Date: 2006-09-12 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lietya.livejournal.com
I'm blessed with being married to someone who's (quite literally) making a second career out of following my state's races, all the way down to the smallest of them for our area at least. I do basic research, but overall, I trust his judgment when he tells me the facts.

I also don't vote "straight" party ticket - ie, I'll possibly vary it in the "higher" races before I get that far - but if all else fails I'll vote Dem even if I've never heard of the person.

Date: 2006-09-12 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
Our city politics mailing list is an excellent place for me to read about other people's experience with the candidates, sometimes going back for decades. I've found it a very useful tool in determining which candidates to support.

Also, I tend to support candidates who abide by the endorsement process (endorsements come from a variety of local conventions prior to the primary; I've been a delegate), and not those who do not abide by the endorsing process unless they are the endorsee.

Date: 2006-09-12 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ranunculus.livejournal.com
We have a friend who's opinion we value. He is -deeply- immersed in local politics, including very down ballot issues. He is kind enough to write up his recomendations on elections, including all of his "insider" reasons to like or dislike a candidate. More than once we have been tempted to vote for a Board of Supervisor's candidate, and our friend's comments have been: great positions, but totally inflexible and frequently disrupts meetings and impeads -any- decision. That said, we also vote against this friend's recomendations if our research on the issue brings us to a different conclusion.
Here in San Francisco we frequently have many State down ballot issues, and as many as 10 to 30 -local- down ballot issues, so doing homework for an election is time consuming.
Oh, we pay a lot of attention to who is sponsoring and supporting issues.

Date: 2006-09-12 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] journeywoman.livejournal.com
I picked "other" for the general election. I tend to do a bit more research for it, so it involves reading interviews and endorsements by various publications, the voter's guide, talking with other people, and personal research if there's a particular issue that I'm concerned about.

Date: 2006-09-12 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juliansinger.livejournal.com
Sometimes, if I don't know enough about them, I don't vote in that race. Sometimes, if the voter's guide doesn't have enough info, I'll look for some of my own.

And by "I copy them," I mean, "Someone I know does lots of research (usually, this is my mother), and we talk about it, and argue a little, and then we both vote, often for different people."

Once, I voted a straight party ticket, with the lever and everything, and then I felt guilty because I had no idea who I'd just voted for in some of the down ballot races, and so I don't do that anymore.

Date: 2006-09-12 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juliansinger.livejournal.com
Also, I forgot to add, I'm a reporter for the local weekly paper, so some of the really small races, I in fact do articles on and stuff myself. So that's /a/ form of research...

Date: 2006-09-12 05:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ckd
If I don't have any better reason to vote one way or the other in a given race, I'll vote for the challenger if there's only one (to offset the name-recognition factor and other advantages of incumbency). If they're running unopposed, I will either leave it blank or vote for them if I think they're actually doing a good job.

If there's no incumbent, or more than one challenger, I'll hopefully have a better reason to vote one way or the other; I may make a semi-random choice based on name/address (as a vague proxy for socioeconomic standing which would affect views in office) or just leave it blank.

Date: 2006-09-12 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shelly-rae.livejournal.com
I live in a pretty small town where it's pretty common and fairly easy to meet with candidates in person. I try to sit down with them and talk about issues and my concerns to get a sense of the candidate and their priorities. I'll also email them with questions and attend meetings or other gatherings. There is almost always cheese involved.
Anon

Date: 2006-09-12 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] txanne.livejournal.com
When I checked "endorsements of daily newspaper," I meant "in order to vote the other way." In general elections, if I've never heard of them, I vote for the Democrat. Around here, they're going to lose anyway--but at least they haven't had time to become hopelessly corrupt yet.

Date: 2006-09-12 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
When I checked "endorsements of daily newspaper," I meant "in order to vote the other way."

Hee! Good point. I should've included an option like, "I go by the endorsements of an organization or political action group I oppose, and vote the other way." Because that's often a very sensible way of doing things.

Date: 2006-09-12 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tavella.livejournal.com
I do a mix, though like other people here I always end up thinking I haven't done enough research. I look at their candidate statements first, and if they can't write or spell or if there's no statement at all that's usually a disqual. And then I do a quick run through on the smartvote site and check the SJ Mercury and the Metro (local 'alternative'). If I can't see a clear choice by then, I don't vote on the race.

Date: 2006-09-12 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhetley.livejournal.com
Other - explained in comments.

I live in a small town, where I'm as likely as not to actually know the candidates. County clerk used to live next door, for example, and our current governor (former congressperson, mayor, and city council member) lives in the next block.

MD Senate

Date: 2006-09-12 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
I'm rooting for Mfume.

B

Re: MD Senate

Date: 2006-09-12 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
I voted for Cardin, but I will happily support Mfume if he wins.

Re: MD Senate

Date: 2006-09-12 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
Cardin is my second favorite.

Does anyone else in the running even stand a chance?

B

Re: MD Senate

Date: 2006-09-12 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
No, not at all.

I'm part of Zogby's Internet polling pool, and they've never even really asked about anyone but Cardin, Mfume, and (recently) Josh Rales. Not any of the rest of them. But I had never even heard of Rales until Zogby asked about him, and neither had Michael.

Re: MD Senate

Date: 2006-09-12 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
That's why I was surprised about your comment about twelve people ruinning. From this part of the country, it was a two-person race.

B

Re: MD Senate

Date: 2006-09-13 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjlayman.livejournal.com
I've seen three of Rales' TV ads regularly in the last few weeks.

Re: MD Senate

Date: 2006-09-13 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjlayman.livejournal.com
Ah, I'm rooting for Cardin. I don't live in MD, but I think I know more about Rivka's down-ballot races than she does. Then again, I'm very political, don't work, have the day online, and just have cats.

(Cardin has been declared the winner, the news says.)

Mfume is acceptable, but I think Cardin is clearly more competent.

What I haven't seen mentioned here is how Baltimore and Montgomery County screwed up the elections so many people didn't get to vote. Baltimore forgot to send the electrical cords for some of the machines and got a court-ordered extra hour to vote. Montgomery didn't send the voter cards so there was, in some places, almost three hours before the machines could be used. There weren't enough paper ballots in several polling places and people were voting on scraps of paper and the line was so long many people had to leave. In addition, 20 techs quit that morning so they had to have other staff set up the machines. The judge ordered them an extra hour, too, but it still wasn't enough for everybody to vote who wanted to.

Re: MD Senate

Date: 2006-09-13 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com
Welcome to the world of Diebold.

Avi Rubin wrote about the debacle.

B

Re: MD Senate

Date: 2006-09-13 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjlayman.livejournal.com
Ah, thanks!

Date: 2006-09-12 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edschweppe.livejournal.com
When there's actually a contested down-ballot position, I try to do my own research first, and combine those results with any recommendations of close friends. If that doesn't decide me, I'll fall back to checking endorsements (if I hate the endorser, that tends to go against the endorsee).

If, after that, I still have no idea, I generally go with the incumbent on the principle that they're doing a good enough job that I don't otherwise care.

Of course, most of the down-ballot offices around here tend to have no challengers. In particular, I can't recall the last time there was an actual contest for a School Committee seat. That's particularly ironic when one considers the annual spectacle of the Usual Suspects parading to the microphones at the Annual Town Meeting, bemoaning how high taxes are and how much money the School Committee spends. (None of said Usual Suspects, I hasten to add, actually serve on said School Comittee.)

Date: 2006-09-12 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erikted.livejournal.com
I Google them. Which I suppose could count as doing my own research, but I don't do it rigorously enugh for me to want to call it that.

If I don't feel like I have enough info, I leave it blank.

Date: 2006-09-12 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patgreene.livejournal.com
I think "several of the above" would have to be my answer. If I have a chance I read the voter's pamphlet, if I don't I look to see if I recognize names, and then, if neither of those, I don't vote in the particular race. The upshot is I vote in city positions since the candidates often come to the neighborhood ice cream social and I have a chance to talk to them, and in school board positions since I end up knowing some of the candidates from volunteering in the schools, but not in county-wide positions. I especially refrain from voting in judicial races if I don't know anything about the candidates.

In general elections for state and national positions, unless and until a candidate can be shown to be totally unfit, I'm voting Democratic.

Date: 2006-09-13 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjlayman.livejournal.com
I don't know where you are, but around DC, almost all the candidate pamphlets have exactly the same priorities. You have to look at what they've said and how they've voted before, if they have, to get a real idea of what they believe.

Our last council election here in Manassas, all but two candidates made illegal immigrants and education their priorities. Even though I knew those two would also talk about illegal immigrants, I voted for them because they didn't put it on their pamphlets. They lost, of course.

Manassas is under investigation by the feds for racial bigotry and there are a lot of people who would like that damn law back in force.

Also...

Date: 2006-09-12 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patgreene.livejournal.com
The big thing to watch out for in California is not always the candidates but the ballot initiatives, which can show up in both primary and general elections. A professor I had in law school once said that if you didn't understand a proposition's effects clearly, you should not vote for it, even if it seems like a generally good idea. Having seen how a lot of these things play out, and how warped the ballot initiative process in California is, I have to agree with him.

Date: 2006-09-13 12:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
I posted about voting in today's primary, with some stuff connected to this.

Note that my "down-ballot races" are judges (some of our lower courts are elected) and the internal to the political party stuff, including "male district leader" and "female district leader" (and yes, those are the official names of the positions, and there's one of each for each district).

My paternal grandmother's approach, for a long time, was to call my father and ask for advice; he knew about the races in her district as well as the borough-, city-, and state-wide races. (I'm not sure how much of that was being involved in local politics, and how much was making a point of checking into it for his mother.)

Date: 2006-09-13 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thette.livejournal.com
We don't have primary elections; which names go on the ballot is up to the party (voted by a representative system of the paying members; I'm a member of a party, most people aren't). The ballots are a long list of names, and you can, if you'd like, check one candidate you really want to vote for. Then, seats are distributed according to the modified Sainte-Laguë method.

We also don't have your culture of voting for each and every public office. We vote for national, regional (county) and local government, and any issues up for public vote. (There's a separate EU election.)

I go with party loyalty, and pick our party's ballots straight from the box. If I know any of the people, I might check them, or if I want a woman, someone from the North (in national or EU elections), someone from my part of the city (in local elections) or someone with a low-income job.

For my first election, I split my vote, and voted for three different parties. I had done a whole lot of reading on local and regional issues.

Date: 2006-09-13 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjlayman.livejournal.com
It's different here in Virginia. First, we don't have to declare party affiliation. Then to pick candidates for the general elections, you can either caucus (paying members get together & pick) or you can have primary elections. The Republicans almost always caucus and the Democrats almost always have elections.

Since there's no party affiliation, people are only allowed to vote/caucus in one of the parties. There's ways to do both, but I think a lot of people are honorable.

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