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rivka ([personal profile] rivka) wrote2007-11-13 02:28 pm
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If you were going to be spending several days in the hospital at the side of your sick toddler, what could someone bring you that would make things easier?

My friend Emily's husband decided to cancel his business trip, so she's at least going to have someone consistent to help, and give her breaks. But she's going to be the one spending nights at the hospital and so forth. Zoe's still very sick - they've given up on the idea that she'll be able to go home before Thursday or Friday at the earliest.

I'm going by to visit tonight. I'm planning to bring coloring books, crayons, and stickers for Zoe, and my electric kettle filled with herbal tea and cocoa packets for Emily. (I suspect that all they'll have on the unit is a coffee pot, and Emily is an observant Mormon.) I'm also going to bring by a light and frivolous novel.

Any other suggestions?
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[personal profile] melebeth 2007-11-13 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Does she knit? If she does, yarn and needles might be appreciated.

[identity profile] kightp.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd probably bring a loaner shawl or lap-quilt, because I have a bunch of those and having something to wrap around oneself seems as if it would prove comforting.

On the off chance that she doesn't have a cell phone, one of those paid-up long-distance calling cards might be useful.

[identity profile] kazoogrrl.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I second this. Also, maybe a small pillow and slippers. Hospitals are not known for being comfy.

[identity profile] wiredferret.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Crossword puzzles/sudoku. Something that can be picked up and put down easily, but does not require the attention span of narrative.

Suggestions from a nonparent

(Anonymous) 2007-11-13 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Some wet wipes might be nice so that she could freshen up without having to go home for a shower.

Would a baby monitor make sense? Something so that she could go take a bathroom or food break and still know if Zoe's woken up?

-Sumana

Re: Suggestions from a nonparent

[identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sure you can't take something that uses radio waves onto a hospital unit, for fear that it will interfere with their telemetry. But in any case, I just don't think she'll be able or willing to get that far away. Fortunately, there's a bathroom right in the room.

[identity profile] electricland.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Those sound like good things. *thinks*

The hospital I work for suggests lip balm.

Maybe some healthy and tasty snacks, as well as the cocoa? There may not be a quick and easy way to get snacks on the unit, and, well, hospital food is often no fun. Chocolate, almonds, baby carrots, mini tomatoes, grapes, apples, cheese sticks, crackers, granola bars?

Does Emily have a change of clothes, comfy slippers, etc? Does she have all the toiletries and things she needs from home? I assume the hospital is all fixed for hand sanitizer. Does she do any crafting?

That's all I can think of offhand.

[identity profile] geekymary.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
When I was in that situation (fortunately Eddie wasn't as sick as Zoe is), I wanted the following things:
- entertainment for Eddie (so I brought my laptop and a bunch of DVDs)
- to know what was going on medically (I had a misunderstanding when a nurse woke Eddie up to weigh him, which he didn't need to do)
- a break (David and I went out to dinner while the nurses watched Eddie)

I think some way to write down questions and answers would be helpful - I found I'd forget questions during the one time a day that the doctor would visit.

[identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Ask her if she needs what my daughter charmingly calls "monthly protection", then get her preferred product for her if she says she does.

K.

[identity profile] telerib.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
A hot dinner, either home-made or a favorite carry-out.

Some DVDs to watch, both with my toddler (if toddler is TV-watching sort) or grown-up movies for when child is asleep, if the hospital is DVD (or VHS) equipped.

Some medium-small garbage pails, baskets, or other bins, because I feel better when I can organize things and there may be insufficient bin- or drawer-space in the hospital room for everything in its place. (That's a pretty weird one, but if Emily is Type A too...)

An air mattress or cot, if the sleeping arrangements in the hospital room leave something to be desired. (And an electric air pump for the mattress.)

A fan or small radio that can be used as a white noise machine, to drown out some of the hospital noise.

[identity profile] kcobweb.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
A friend of ours was in just this situation over the summer (toddler in the hospital with pneumonia) - we brought stickers, which C sort of just looked at while we were there. Once she started feeling better (and felt less shy, after we left) she was apparently sticking them on *everything*. She also had several Mylar balloons in her room, which were nice entertainment for her.

I think the novel idea is perfect. Maybe also a snack of some sort to go with the tea/cocoa? (Chips, nuts, granola bars, whatever.... or something more substantial.) So if she gets the munchies in between meals she isn't totally dependent on vending machines and also doesn't have to leave the room.

[identity profile] kcobweb.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
playing cards

[identity profile] toadnae.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Having recently spent a good chunk of time sitting at my grandmother's bedside in the hospital:

1) A decent pillow for lumbar support (although much depends on the quality of the chairs on that floor)
2) I second healthy/tasty snacks. Hospital food is EXPENSIVE.
3) In my case, my grandmother was pretty low-interaction and only became more so. Audiobooks or something to amuse Emily without disturbing Zoe might be very helpful.
4) If she crafts, this could be a lifeline. I completed most of my Moebius scarf sitting in the hospital. Or perhaps quick lessons in a simple and easy craft to occupy her mind.

To my mind, a lot is going to depend on how much interaction Zoe is demanding.
Edited 2007-11-13 20:21 (UTC)

[identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
To my mind, a lot is going to depend on how much interaction Zoe is demanding.

Lots. And. Lots.

[identity profile] elisem.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with the wet-wipes suggestion.

Clean socks and any other needfuls.

Stationery and stamps and a pen.

Maybe magazines she can read and then leave behind for others when she's done? (Sometimes a person doesn't want to take stuff home, either because they've finished it or because they don't want too much kipple that reminds them of the hospital and the waiting and stuff.)

I also agree with the suggestion of a container or bin or zippered bag or something, empty, to accomodate stuff that accumulates during this sort of stay.

A notebook to keep track of calls, of doctor/nurse/medtech visits and advice, and to make notes on things to do later. Keep the notebook small enough to be tucked into a pocket or purse, and attach a pencil on a string if possible.

[identity profile] electricland.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
A notebook to keep track of calls, of doctor/nurse/medtech visits and advice, and to make notes on things to do later. Keep the notebook small enough to be tucked into a pocket or purse

Baby Moleskine cahiers (http://www.moleskine.com/eng/_interni/catalogo/Cat_int/catalogo_cahiers.htm) are excellent for this, if you feel like splurging. ;)

[identity profile] ex-serenejo.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
1) Cocoa has caffeine

2) Notepad, pen, envelopes, stamps?

[identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
The caffeine in cocoa (and other forms of chocolate) doesn't seem to bother Mormons - I double-checked with Emily, though, just to be sure. Our religions are so different that I feel like I can't rely on either intuition or common sense to figure out what will work for her.

[identity profile] ex-serenejo.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
You're a very smart Rivka, you are.

[identity profile] casperflea.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Her favorite hand lotion - there is a lot of required handwashing in hospitals (rightly so) and the hands get dry. Something comforting and nice-smelling if she hasn't got a favorite.

If she's a reader, *light* novels or even magazines - it seems to be hard to concentrate when in hospitals, even if you're just waiting/the person you are with is asleep. So flip-through-able is nice.

[identity profile] saoba.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Hand lotion. Throat lozenges, the air in hospitals always makes my throat dry.

Those slipper socks with the traction gripper dots, because the floors are often cold and slippery.

Tissues with lotion. The hospital will have tissues, but they're often thin and rather industrial-quality. Wet wipes, the ones for hands (the hospital may provide these, some ped wards do, but they're a godsend to adults as well).

When I was sitting in hopsital with Laura, some kind soul brought me a large envelope with takeout menus from the places nearby that would deliver.

[identity profile] hobbitbabe.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Everybody else beat me to the good ideas. Maybe a fleece blanket - because they work well to scrunch into neck support in a chair, too - or the loan of an MP3 player with comforting music, or some kind of good food that isn't messy.

My nephew's best friend was hospitalized for a week when they were barely two. I visited the day he got home, and I could see that all the preschoolers on the street were anxious about the scary event, not sure what to make of sluggish post-surgical Braden. Not-too-verbal nibling kept retelling the story "Braden hospital, home?" at every slightly-relevant prompt. Alex's language and conceptual skills should help you comfort her.

[identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe this is the wrong decision, but I wasn't planning to say anything to Alex about it. If she were a year older, she could draw a picture for Zoe or anything, but now I don't see that telling her would serve a useful purpose.

If she's awake when I leave tonight (or on subsequent nights), I'll tell her that I need to go help Miss Emily with something. She's unlikely to ask why we aren't seeing Zoe for our normal weekly playdate, but if she does I will just explain that Zoe is sick and needs to rest.

[identity profile] hobbitbabe.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I was sort of surprised that they told Duncan about it while it was still going on, but I guess they thought that the level of parental / neighbourhood anxiety and the conversations going on over his head were going to tell him something was wrong.
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[personal profile] naomikritzer 2007-11-13 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Light books (personally, I often find amusing nonfiction easier to read in a high-distraction environment -- my shelf this week includes "Kids" by Meredith Small, "See You In a Hundred Years," about a couple of New York yuppies who decided to pretend they were living in 1900, bought a farmhouse in rural Virginia and had the plumbing and electricity taken out, and a book about the top ten sporting events, written by a sportswriter who realized he'd never been to any of the biggies and thus did so and then wrote about it entertainingly.) I also find magazines really easy reading, though I'd stay away from the "ARE YOUR KIDS PROTECTED FROM THESE TWENTY RANDOM AND UNLIKELY DEADLY THREATS?" school of parenting magazines.

If my younger kid were in the hospital, I'd want a small CD player plus a stack of CDs that she would enjoy listening to, a mix of music (she has diverse tastes) and children's stories.

I think the preferred hand lotion and feminine necessities are excellent ideas. Also snacks -- if this were me, I would want something that didn't urgently require refrigeration but that also was not dry like a granola bar as I have trouble eating while under stress, and dry food is particularly difficult to get down. There are these pop-top cans of canned fruit and peel-top children's lunch packages of mandarin oranges that would be exactly what I needed.
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[personal profile] naomikritzer 2007-11-13 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, hey, and another thing I would want (YMMV with your friend): echinacea capsules. I tend to get sick when under stress and deprived of sleep (and exposed to extra germs is a particular bonus) and can often ward off nasty colds by dosing myself with echinacea. I keep some around at all times at home.

[identity profile] ladyotterfae.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
People have covered the grounds pretty well. :) I was fortunate in my lots of time in the hospital this last summer that the person I was visiting/keeping an eye on was interactive and largely self-entertaining, which isn't the case with a sick toddler, but my experience tells me of a few necessities: comfortable pillow/blanket for sleeping wherever you end up sleeping, whenever you can get the sleep. Any form of low to medium concentration level handicraft is a godsend when trying not to fret yourself silly, or deal with a long nap on the part of the convalescent.
Speaking from distant memories of being stuck in a hospital myself as a child, a cuddly, somewhat interactive soft toy is good.
I love your idea for teas and cocoa. I stocked the hospital/nursing unit rooms with things like dried fruit, nuts, a little good chocolate, and just sucked it up and paid for anything other than water. If we ever have to go through that again, I'm bring the tea kit with me.
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[personal profile] jenett 2007-11-13 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
On the sensible snack thing: trail mix, or something else involving protein, as well as other stuff.

Also with other suggestions on the magazines: there are times one's attention span is only a few pages long.

Something small, amusing, and that would cheer her up. (Doesn't need to be - and shouldn't be - expensive. But a something that she can look at briefly, smile, and know people are thinking of her, etc. A decorative box or bowl to hold stuff. A small stuffed animal if she's that kind of person. Flowers. A card.)

[identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Books to read aloud to the toddler. Yeah, they'll have some already. Take some they haven't got. You get through them a lot.

Here's all I have to contribute (what a rotten name to rhyme, though at least it isn't as bad as Z, who rhymes out very quickly!):

There once was a toddler called Zoe
Whose breathing went wheezily whoa-ee. (woe-ee)
In a hospital bed,
Tucked up with her ted,
She'll quickly get better you know-ee.

[identity profile] shandra.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I second something like trail mix or fruit - easy to eat, reasonably healthful.

I had pneumonia a lot as a kid, and it hurts, so something like massage oil with mint or eucalyptus for rubbing Zoe's back (vicks vaporub was our thing), if not contra-indicated, might be nice and give Emily something to do for her child - which is something I would want in her place. Chapstick like products can really help with the dry lips that sometimes come from the fever and tent and stuff.

I don't know what your budget is but if Zoe's at all into fantasy play a magic wand or wizard's hat or anything that can be used to play out wishes go a long way in making hospitals less scary.

[identity profile] ratphooey.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
A roll of soft toilet paper.

Because hospital TP is not soft enough, dammit.

You think they'd know better.
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[personal profile] geminigirl 2007-11-13 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Face washing things, lotion, lip balm (two of them-one for Zoe and one for Emily) and a hairbrush.

[identity profile] saltcod.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
A sleep mask might be helpful--it never seems to be dark in a hospital room, and even a worried parent has to sleep a little bit.

[identity profile] heidi8.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
My niece was in the hospital for about a week last December - she was younger than Zoe but was also completely bedbound because of a shunt in her foot, so we had to make sure to keep her amused and sedetary.
Someone should ask if the hospital can bring in a tv with a dvd player - and friends can loan dvds. The 5 inch LCD screened dvd porto-players are at target for about 50 bucks these days, too, if nobody has one to lend. If someone in your circle can lend a video ipod, you can stock it with things like Dora, Little Einsteins and Ruff Ruffman from itunes - and if someone has the cable ot link it to a tv it's even better.

If not, an ipod with kid-friendly songs and audiobooks is great.

A booklight so Emily can read without turning many lights on is good, and it's also useful for walking around the room in the evenings. If there is an on-floor microwave, then popcorn is good too - and those nifty new "brownie in a bowl" things for one that you just add water too.

There are also those little "computers" with 3 inch b&w screens with alphabet/shape/matching games that are easy to play in bed. My daughter loves her Star Wars one, and we have Barbie and Spider Man ones too. And there's a similar thing that's Diego with lots of info about animals.

Make sure she has her phone charger, too.

[identity profile] cattitude.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Call her an hour before you show up. Offer to bring whatever she would like right now. Suggest takeout (or pastries if it's not mealtime) from her favorite place nearby if she can't think of anything.

She's probably got all the practical things she actually needs already, unless this is her first day there.

If my own experience is any guide, what she'll really want most is company. You'll be providing that.

chocolate

[identity profile] tendyl.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
My mom's vote is for chocolate candy. My vote is for someone to watch the toddler so I could go outside for dinner and barring that someone to deliver read food to me.

[identity profile] beckyzoole.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
A few years ago, friends of mine took turns spending a couple of nights in the hospital with their sick infant. (While the other stayed at home with their toddler.)

They really appreciated the evening I showed up with take-out fried chicken, a couple of cold cokes, and a stack of silly movies. I stayed until midnight watching DVDs with Sean and helping him eat the chicken. He got to get his mind off being worried, while he was still able to comfort his baby son when he fussed and ask the appropriate questions of the nursing staff.

[identity profile] riarambles.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
It may not be the case there, but all the hospitals I have worked at have specifically disallowed any kind of electrical device brought in from home. Just FYI.