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rivka ([personal profile] rivka) wrote2009-11-16 10:56 am

Nannies and religion redux.

Yesterday afternoon, as we were on the way to the park, we had this conversation with Alex about religion:

Alex: You know what? Some people never ever hurt an animal or even step on an ant. Because that could be your dead relative!
Us: Oh yeah?
Alex: Yeah! Like, Nia [our current nanny, who is a Buddhist and a vegetarian] believes that. But I believe... heaven!
Me: Okay, what you believe is up to you.
Alex: Who believes in hell?
Michael: Some people. Not us.
Alex: But who? What people believe in hell?
Me: Well... Miss Polly did.
Alex: No, she didn't.
Me: She didn't?
Alex: No, she just believed in God and the Devil and God being mad if I didn't say my prayers.
Michael and me: give each other oh-shit-now-what looks, because we haven't heard this particular variation before.
Me (attempting a mild tone of voice): Huh. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Because doesn't God have bigger things to worry about than getting mad about what a little girl does or doesn't say?
Alex: She was NOT a Unitarian.
Michael: No, she wasn't.
Alex: And she was NOT a Universalist, either.
Me: Definitely not a Universalist.
Alex: Miss Polly doesn't go to our church.
Me: Nope. If she did, [livejournal.com profile] acceberskoorb would tell her that she's wrong.[1]
Alex and Michael: That's right.

I'm feeling kind of bad now because recently Alex has sometimes asked to "say my prayers" at bedtime. I figured it came from a book and didn't probe too deeply into her motivation, and so I prompted her through the less-creepy version of "Now I lay me down to sleep." (Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray the lord my soul to keep. May angels guard me through the night and wake me with the morning's light.) But now I'm thinking... I should've asked questions.

The part about "She was NOT a Unitarian" makes me laugh, and also feel proud. Alex asked us a few weeks ago what "Universalist" meant, and together Michael and I were able to give her a pretty good explanation of Universalist theology and why we are Universalists. I would have a harder time explaining Unitarianism as a theological doctrine, because UUs have moved so far from the original or literal meaning of the term. But I do like that Alex has a clear sense of her religious identity, and understands that Polly's teachings are incompatible with our religion.

The bit about Nia is such a great contrast, because it's clear that (a) Nia has deeply held religious beliefs which our family does not share, and (b) she has discussed those beliefs with Alex, but (c) as indicated by Alex's words and cheerful demeanor (and her total love for Nia), she did it without the slightest implication that Alex should share her beliefs or that Alex's behavior is morally wrong.


[1] [livejournal.com profile] acceberskoorb would do so in a totally loving and nonjudgmental way.
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[personal profile] ckd 2009-11-16 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
The part about "She was NOT a Unitarian" makes me laugh, and also feel proud.

It made me laugh, too. Good thing I'm the first one in today of my officemates, or I'd have had to explain why I was laughing so hard....

[1] [livejournal.com profile] acceberskoorb would do so in a totally loving and nonjudgmental way.

...and just as I had stopped laughing at Alex's contribution, I hit this.

I am also touched by the bit about Nia, and how she's helped show Alex some of the amazing diversity of religious beliefs in such a wonderful way.
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[personal profile] ailbhe 2009-11-16 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm so glad!

[identity profile] telerib.livejournal.com 2009-11-16 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a less-creepy version?!

That's awesome. I seriously lost sleep to that old bedtime prayer, because obviously if you had to pray about "if I die before I wake," there was a real, non-trivial possibility it could happen. And I was recently wondering about what kind of bedtime prayers we might say with Spud... all I could think of was "not that one." :)

Very glad Nia is working out so much better than Polly!

[identity profile] acceberskoorb.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
I am pretty nice.

On the other hand...well, let's just say I'm glad it's a hypothetical!